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I don't have much to add, came to wp to find out more, and there is nothing. This may be more important of other details. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.59.106.25 (talk) 01:39, 26 July 2014
Allsides is criticized by Wikipedia as sometimes paying attention to public assessment (by voting) concerning the bias of particular sources. About that, Allsides has a disclaimer for those who do vote that reads in part "Community votes alone don't determine our ratings, but are valuable feedback and can prompt us to do more research." However, in the case of the Associated Press (AP), given its huge impact on other media, Allsides has done a bias determination that is rather more extensive and has recently changed its rating of AP from "center" to "lean left" citing enough specific cases that Allsides has medium confidence in that rating [1]. AP can be wildly inaccurate and inflammatory, my own issue with them is their historical propensity for calling Nazi concentration camps, "Polish Concentration Camps." [2] This was so inflammatory that the Polish Government criminalized such accusations, which law has now been repealed [3]. Given the historical support of AP for the Nazis [4] and their recent tendency to say nothing good about Trump and nothing bad about Biden, AP for me stands for "Anti-Polish." I consider AP biased, often inflammatory and unreliable. 207.47.175.199 (talk) 15:07, 18 March 2023 (UTC) 207.47.175.199 (talk) 15:07, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I actually added to the article that the AP has a slight left-lean bias, based on the Allsides report, as well as from AdFontes[1] (which says that AP has a middle bias, but does put them on the left side) and MediaBias/FactCheck[2]. I didn't mention an article from Biasly[3] which also says that AP is somewhat liberal. It got pulled down, though. I asked the person who pulled it why they did so and I am now waiting for a response. There are a few more articles that discuss the AP's political bias, such as this one, this one, this one, this one, and this one, but these are opinion pieces so they don't meet Wikipedia's standards. There is also this poll from YouGov,[4] which says that people think that the AP has a lean-left bias. There is also this research article[5] that says that the AP has a lean-left bias on the economy and the environment. PotatoKugel (talk) 19:25, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The references used [1], with the exception of AllSides, are unreliable. Because the AllSides rating has a high confidence rating, it can be used. It might be best to indicate that the rating is a change from previous years.
I'm unfamiliar with biasly.com, am unaware of any discussions about it, and don't believe it is reliable after skimming through their website.
I'm not sure that the survey deserves mention, and we should be extremely careful not to mix or compare survey results from analysis like that of AllSides.
I wouldn't use the IEEE article because I can't find their methodology for categorizing news sources. Can someone find it?
As for the other articles you linked, I'm unclear if any of them are more than opinion pieces, so they shouldn't be used. --Hipal (talk) 21:28, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
From the summary of the discussion by the archives and the Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources it appears that Allsides can be used when they have a High confidence rating. They have a high confidence rating here.
In addition, the Allsides review board rated AP News with a left-leaning bias before factoring in the results of the blind bias survey (which, from what I saw in the archives previously mentioned, was the potential problem with using Allsides).
Allsides, and most other such sites, are just parroting common US opinions. It's no different from saying people in the US think this is left leaning, but this is an international project not one dedicated to US opinion. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested«@» °∆t°10:42, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]